The Saeco machine has proven to fulfill what I was looking for in a superautomatc expresso machines. Easy to use, easy to customize drinks, provides outstanding coffee drinks and expresso. The refurbished unit was like new. It produces outstanding froth and steamed milk. The only issue I have with it is that when frothing milk there is some water that comes out before the steamed milk. Catching the water in a cup has proven to be difficult. It doesn't affect the drink too much so I have accepted this as a condition that is a trade off for the convenience of using a superautomatc expresso machine.